Loose Cannon Clone

[Richard]

From http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/loose-c ... ndex4.html

OG 1.072 FG 1.012 7.9% ABV, 72 IBU
White labs 001 yeast (Cal. Ale)

5 gal batch (into the fermenter)

10.5 lbs 2-Row
1.5 lbs Munich
0.5 lbs Carafoam
0.5 lbs Carastan (34 degrees L)

Mash at 153 F

.25 oz each of Amarillo, Centennial and Magnum - FWH
.125 oz Chinook - 60 min.
.25 oz Magnum - 60 min.
.5 oz each of Amarillo and Centennial - 10 min.
.5 oz each of Amarillo and Centennial - 5 min.

1 oz each of Centennial and Palisade - Dry Hop


I'm going to need to make a hops/grain order...

[Gil Breau]

That the Hop IPA?

I tried the dobbel IPA on the weekend after we went back home, was pretty good.

[Richard]

Supposedly the Hop^3 i reviewed - it's got a profile I'd like to use as a starting point for a black IPA, so I'm hoping this at least comes close.

[JohnQ]

I really want to do this one, I've enjoyed a couple of the originals now and I like it lots.
We don't have Carastan as an option from our grain supplier, do you think the crystal 40 would make an appropriate sub?
Of course, I've got 11 pounds of hops, but no Amarillo or Chinook...maybe Cascade and Nugget?? I guess 11 pounds wasn't enough hops after all My FREEZER ISN'T THAT BIG ARRRGH :!:  :!:  :!:

JQ

[Richard]

I think without amarillo you're dead in the water on this one... You might end up with something good, but not comparable. Suspect crystal 40 is an appropriate sub, but again you're getting further off the original with every sub.

My most recent bottling "crystal IPA" was an attempt to see what massive quantities of low-L crystal malt would do to an IPA. I only bottled it yesterday, so it's a little early to tell if I got even close to the mark. My first impression is that the candy-like quality of the loose cannon comes from a hefty quantity of low-L crystal and a high mash temp. I suspect the 1lb in this recipe is lacking, and that at a minimum they were at more like 2lbs. Tasting the non-carbed beer suggests that at least the flavour is closer than other homebrew IPA benchmarks; not sure about the body yet. Am a little worried the body will be too thick and cloying, so some tradeoff between mash temp and crystal % is likely to be necessary.

I'll have some of the stuff chilled for the meeting - it's an interesting academic brew if nothing else

[JohnQ]

Austin Home Brew has all the hops required to pull this off, I'm ordering enough for me...hop aboard...as it were.
JQ

[Richard]

How much is amarillo?

[JohnQ]

Everything on the list, including Amarillo is $2 oz.

JQ

[JohnQ]

They also have the yeast, $7

[Dave Savoie]

John do they Also have Simcoe hops also ?
If so Id like 3 OZ of Amarillo and 3 OZ of Simcoe

[JohnQ]

No Simcoe, here's the list...

Pellets...
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/index.php?cPath=178_21_93_70

Whole...
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/index.php?cPath=178_21_93_94

JQ

[Dave Savoie]

3 OZ Summit and 3 OZ of Amarillo

[JohnQ]

3 OZ Summit and 3 OZ of Amarillo

OK, but I may not be able to deliver this time, I'll try and drop at Kent if I can, but can't guarantee it, don't know when the crossing will happen for certain...so you may have to arrange another delivery method or pickup, is that ok?
JQ

[Dave Savoie]

Yea thats fine Ill be coming to Freddy during mid AUG for sure

[Kyle]

Our grain supplier has bulk Simcoe pellets in 11# packs, for about $126 IIRC, at some point, I'll put together a split for them.