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Brewing => Hops => Topic started by: Waterlogged on June 25, 2013, 09:15:15 AM

Title: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: Waterlogged on June 25, 2013, 09:15:15 AM
I want to try Kyles Tried and Tested Stout recipe but cannot find Challanger hops through Noble Grape or OBK.  There are some subsitutues out there but the AA values are wrong.  kyles recipe calles for 2 oz Challanger (5.5 aa) but all the subs I see are in the 10-11 aa range.  I am at work now so cannot run Beersmith to adjust for the final bitterness of any subs.  I would love to use challanger to keep the recipe as tested.  I am do a 13 gallon BIAB batch so would need 4.5 oz if anyone have any for sale.  Thanks
Reid
Title: Re: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: Chris Craig on June 25, 2013, 09:32:44 AM
Stout isn't really about the hops.  If you're making a single addition at 60 minutes, then EKG or Fuggles would do just fine.  You probably wouldn't even notice the difference.
Title: Re: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: Waterlogged on June 25, 2013, 09:48:25 AM
Good to know Chris.  I was thing of using fuggles since it seems to be a popular bittering hops in stouts.
Title: Re: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: Chris Craig on June 25, 2013, 09:59:04 AM
I can help you out with the Fuggles, I think.  4-5 oz?
Title: Re: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: chrismccull on June 25, 2013, 10:24:08 AM
EKG or Fuggles would work great, I believe that I have some Challenger, I'll check this weekend.
Title: Re: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: brew on June 25, 2013, 11:53:04 AM
I have 12 oz or sonof challenger leaf if your looking for some...
Title: Re: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: Waterlogged on June 25, 2013, 01:28:15 PM
Sweet.  I will take 5 oz of Challanger Brew.  I can grab it when I come get the grain and yeast.  Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: Kyle on June 25, 2013, 10:24:05 PM
Yeah, Challenger is best for the recipe, as it gives a slight earthy / peppery character. However, I've made it with fuggles to bitter (just adjust the volume to match the alpha acid level), ind its pretty close. Glad you are giving the recipe a try. I drew my inspiration for it from the Garrison Martello stout, the St Ambroise Oatmeal Stout, and a porter that Dave made a few years ago... its tasty.
Title: Re: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: Waterlogged on July 01, 2013, 08:54:30 AM
Thank Kyle, I will let you know how it turns out.
Title: Re: WTB some challanger hops or could someone recommend an alternative?
Post by: fakr on July 03, 2013, 01:22:38 PM
Unless you pitch infected yeast, it's pretty hard to make this recipe taste bad.  I've made it on several occasions, with a few modifications each time, and it's just plain old delicious!