New Brunswick Craft Brewers Association
Marketplace => Classifieds => Topic started by: joelmercer on July 18, 2015, 06:20:56 PM
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Hey,
I'm looking to move up to 10 gallon batches and I figured a keggle would be the next logical step.
Have one for sale? Have a keg I can turn into a keggle.
Let me know,
Joel
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I'd look into those OBK kettles. I don't own one but i hear good things. Good price.
http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/16_Gallon_Stainless_Steel_Advanced_Brew_Kettle_p/brew-kettle-16gal-advanced.htm (http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/16_Gallon_Stainless_Steel_Advanced_Brew_Kettle_p/brew-kettle-16gal-advanced.htm)
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Hey,
I'm looking to move up to 10 gallon batches and I figured a keggle would be the next logical step.
Have one for sale? Have a keg I can turn into a keggle.
Let me know,
Joel
Do you plan to go electric or gas fired?
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Do you plan to go electric or gas fired?
Gas (blichmann burner).
Joel
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I'd look into those OBK kettles. I don't own one but i hear good things. Good price.
http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/16_Gallon_Stainless_Steel_Advanced_Brew_Kettle_p/brew-kettle-16gal-advanced.htm (http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/16_Gallon_Stainless_Steel_Advanced_Brew_Kettle_p/brew-kettle-16gal-advanced.htm)
That is a good price.
I just figured it would be cheaper and easier to get a local used pot or keg. I'm not sold on having a keg, just thought it would be cool, and it might be easier to find a used keg than a used pot that nobody wants.
Joel
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I think it all boils down to if you think you'd enjoy fabricating you're pots or something a little more turn key. I built an electric brewery with converted kegs and I love them. Although the OBK kettles are a great price for what you get. You don't actually save much money going with kegs after buying the keg then the time to do the modifications, the hardware and whatever else. However a home made home brewery is quite rewarding when its all done. :cheers:
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I think it all boils down to if you think you'd enjoy fabricating you're pots or something a little more turn key. I built an electric brewery with converted kegs and I love them. Although the OBK kettles are a great price for what you get. You don't actually save much money going with kegs after buying the keg then the time to do the modifications, the hardware and whatever else. However a home made home brewery is quite rewarding when its all done. :cheers:
Yeah, I figured it would be fun and look cool. I don't know how how much people are selling them for. I figured they'd be a little bit cheaper. My time is worthless, and I just need to cut a whole in the top and one the one whole I need for a valve (which I already have), so I figured it wouldn't cost me anything to do that
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I think it all boils down to if you think you'd enjoy fabricating you're pots or something a little more turn key. I built an electric brewery with converted kegs and I love them. Although the OBK kettles are a great price for what you get. You don't actually save much money going with kegs after buying the keg then the time to do the modifications, the hardware and whatever else. However a home made home brewery is quite rewarding when its all done. :cheers:
Yeah, I figured it would be fun and look cool. I don't know how how much people are selling them for. I figured they'd be a little bit cheaper. My time is worthless, and I just need to cut a whole in the top and one the one whole I need for a valve (which I already have), so I figured it wouldn't cost me anything to do that
Well since your time is worthless... Make sure to a lot of research. The first keggle I made I regretted doing it the way I did and ended up completely redoing it. There's a lot of different ways to set up your keggle and since you're building it from scratch it's completely custom you can do anything you want.
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@Roger (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1911) - What did you do the first time, and what did you do when you re-built? What are the main considerations with keggle building?
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@Roger (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1911) - What did you do the first time, and what did you do when you re-built? What are the main considerations with keggle building?
Well @Two Wheeler (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2007) I think the considerations are different depending on what you want to do with it. For example if it's to be used as a BIAB you might want to consider cutting the whole top instead of just between the handles making the opening bigger in order to make getting the bag out easier. Another consideration might be to make sure the valve and or sight glasse are not right above any cut outs along the skirt of the keg so the open flame doesn't burn up seals or your sight glass tube.
Like I say research is your best friend. I looked at many different ways of building my set up. I went through numerous forums, looked at countless pictures, sketched out ideas and I still overlooked something.
Since I went with an electric brewery I didn't like carrying my pots to the washbasin with wires and delicate electronic probes getting wet and bounced of the counter just to clean it out. So I made a new pot with a bottom drain in order to clean in place. Now I'm quite happy with it.
But the way I did it isn't for everyone it took a lot of work, time and money. As long as you're happy with it and it makes beer that's all that really matters anyways.
:cheers:
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Yeah good points
I also go with the additude to take off the least amount at first and try it. So make the hole in the top not leaving some room like I've seen other do to keep a lip at the top before cutting the whole thing out. You can always cut, but you can't put back.
I only just use a single valve right now. I haven't got into a temp gauge or glass sight yet. They'd be nice but my budget hasn't hit the point of buying those little things yet, I've been making do without them for now. And put my money toward major improvements and upgrades (like a bigger pot).
I doing biab, I've got a 72 quart cooler which works alright for non-stepping mashes. It's big enough to do most regular to medium-high gravity 10 gallon batches.
I just need a bigger pot right now to move up to a full 10 gallon for most batches (well that's not 100% true, a bigger mini freezer to frement in would be nice. I'm just going to make do fermenting Half in a carboy and half in a corny keg for now)
Joel
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I know on @Roger (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1911) kettle, he actually flipped it upside down and cut out the bottom of the pot, then he has a tri-clamp fitting on the valve and a 90 degree elbow out, and he built a little box for it to sit on high enough for the elbow. Sounds difficult & a little confusing, but he has a pretty sweet bottom drain kettle that works well. I think you'd need to be going electric for this set-up though.
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I know on @Roger (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1911) kettle, he actually flipped it upside down and cut out the bottom of the pot, then he has a tri-clamp fitting on the valve and a 90 degree elbow out, and he built a little box for it to sit on high enough for the elbow. Sounds difficult & a little confusing, but he has a pretty sweet bottom drain kettle that works well. I think you'd need to be going electric for this set-up though.
That's correct. You can't do a keggle bottom drain with a propane burner only electric. The high heat will burn up your seals and the wort in the pipe. Plus you'd need to figure out a way for it to sit on the burner with the pipe in the way.
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Yeah good points
I also go with the additude to take off the least amount at first and try it. So make the hole in the top not leaving some room like I've seen other do to keep a lip at the top before cutting the whole thing out. You can always cut, but you can't put back.
I only just use a single valve right now. I haven't got into a temp gauge or glass sight yet. They'd be nice but my budget hasn't hit the point of buying those little things yet, I've been making do without them for now. And put my money toward major improvements and upgrades (like a bigger pot).
I doing biab, I've got a 72 quart cooler which works alright for non-stepping mashes. It's big enough to do most regular to medium-high gravity 10 gallon batches.
I just need a bigger pot right now to move up to a full 10 gallon for most batches (well that's not 100% true, a bigger mini freezer to frement in would be nice. I'm just going to make do fermenting Half in a carboy and half in a corny keg for now)
Joel
As far as cutting the top out there's no reason not to go as big as possible without cutting off the skirt/handles. Especially if your using a jig. If you cut it out and find its too small than cutting it out without the jig is gonna be much more challenging.
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I pulled the trigger on the Ontario Keg works 16 gallon pot. It's big enough for an 10 gallon batch I think, I'll just watch for the boil overs.
Thanks for all the advice. I hope to have my first 10 gallon batch on the go next week! I need to adjust my mini-deep freeze to be a little taller so I can fit all of this in there to ferment!
Joel
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I bought the same one. I haven't had a chance to use it but it seems pretty nice!
http://nbcba.org/forum/equipment/looking-to-get-some-pot/msg36317/#msg36317
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Yeah, their 20 gallon pot is a big jump in price, which is too bad, I would of liked the extra space.
I'm going to sell my old pot now. Anybody want an 11 gallon pot? I have one of these off amazon, it has been a good pot. I have a hole cut for a valve.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VXHKMC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d4_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=0HR93S07EHEP2G5C7KGA&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop
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Yeah, their 20 gallon pot is a big jump in price, which is too bad, I would of liked the extra space.
I'm going to sell my old pot now. Anybody want an 11 gallon pot? I have one of these off amazon, it has been a good pot. I have a hole cut for a valve.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VXHKMC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p79_d4_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=0HR93S07EHEP2G5C7KGA&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop
Unless you plan to do BIAB only you might want to use that 11 gallon pot for your HLT...
Just out of curiosity what do you plan to do with that keg now that you bought a pot?
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Unless you plan to do BIAB only you might want to use that 11 gallon pot for your HLT...
Just out of curiosity what do you plan to do with that keg now that you bought a pot?
I never bought a Keg, I was looking for one. Now I don't need one.
I just batch sparge and I buy water from Sobeys (It has served me well, and my water sucks), when when pull off the mash I generally drain into the now empty and clean water bottles, then dump them all back into the pot when I'm ready to start my boil. I only have one burner anyway, so it works well for my setup. It's easier lifting a few 5 gallons bottles to my kettle then lifting a full kettle when I'm switching pots.
Joel