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Title: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Waterlogged on August 06, 2014, 09:05:25 AM
Would like to do a saison in the next week or so.  Does anyone have any washed yeast they don't think they will be using?
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: blisster on August 06, 2014, 06:35:50 PM
I have a vile of White Labs Saison II Ale Yeast you can have.

It was best before Sept 13 but should still be good with a starter...
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: blisster on August 06, 2014, 06:36:44 PM
WLP566
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Waterlogged on August 06, 2014, 10:00:31 PM
That would be great Pierre.  That would be Set 2013??  I have some wort left over from a pale ale I can use to get her rocking. 
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Al-Loves-Wine on August 07, 2014, 04:00:43 PM
That would be great Pierre.  That would be Set 2013??  I have some wort left over from a pale ale I can use to get her rocking.

You won't have to worry with that yeast, it will rock waaaayyyy past the best before date. I just used mine from the same date on a 1.5L starter, and it was the only yeast that you could very noticeably see the cell count double in 12 hours. You should be impressed with it Reid, cleans itself up very well. But you can count on an easy 4 week ferment with it. I was at 1.006 after 5 weeks, and believe it still would have dried up more if I had left it. But I had an empty keg that I could hear begging me to fill it with beer.
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Waterlogged on August 07, 2014, 06:57:03 PM
I have a few saison recipes, some from Brewing Classic Styles and a few from a Brew Your Own article.  Most of them state to rise the fermentation temperature to high 20's low 30's so that may help.  The also suggest some extra fermentables such as sugar to dry it out again.  I was thinking of a stronger Saison for winter so the extra time may not be an issue.
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Al-Loves-Wine on August 07, 2014, 11:10:06 PM
Yeah easily, It was probably in the 80's where I had left mine fermenting. Taste fantastic, I made something similar to one of Jamie's recipes with all Nelson Sauvin. Should be ready for guzzling tomorrow. Can't imagine I will guzzle many though @ 7.1 abv.  :drink:
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: jamie_savoie on August 08, 2014, 10:01:31 AM
I have a few saison recipes, some from Brewing Classic Styles and a few from a Brew Your Own article.  Most of them state to rise the fermentation temperature to high 20's low 30's so that may help.  The also suggest some extra fermentables such as sugar to dry it out again.  I was thinking of a stronger Saison for winter so the extra time may not be an issue.
I prefer my saison without sguar unless I'm brewing something > 1.060.  You don't need sugar to help dry a saison imo.  Any good strain can easily chew wort down to 1.002-004 without problem.  Pitch mid 60s and place the fermentor in the hottest corner of the house and let it free rise.  I happen to have two fermenting in my garage now lol
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Waterlogged on August 08, 2014, 10:33:17 AM
I have a few saison recipes, some from Brewing Classic Styles and a few from a Brew Your Own article.  Most of them state to rise the fermentation temperature to high 20's low 30's so that may help.  The also suggest some extra fermentables such as sugar to dry it out again.  I was thinking of a stronger Saison for winter so the extra time may not be an issue.
I prefer my saison without sguar unless I'm brewing something > 1.060.  You don't need sugar to help dry a saison imo.  Any good strain can easily chew wort down to 1.002-004 without problem.  Pitch mid 60s and place the fermentor in the hottest corner of the house and let it free rise.  I happen to have two fermenting in my garage now lol

This  style definitly seeems like a way to brew in the summer without worring about cool fermentation temperatures. 
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Waterlogged on August 08, 2014, 10:35:21 AM
Has anyone ever used Danstar Belle Saison Belgian Yeast?  Noble grape has some and if I make another or possible double batch, would this do?
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Jake on August 08, 2014, 11:00:31 AM
I was in at noble grape only 2 days ago and they did not stock it ... do you know if they have since got it in?
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Waterlogged on August 08, 2014, 11:04:31 AM
They have it listed on their website as one they stock but I have not called them yet. 
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Waterlogged on August 08, 2014, 11:07:59 AM
I just called NG and they have them in Halifax.
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Roger on August 08, 2014, 12:21:28 PM
Has anyone ever used Danstar Belle Saison Belgian Yeast?  Noble grape has some and if I make another or possible double batch, would this do?
I just bottled my first saison fermented with Belle Saison yeast. However it won't be ready to drink until a month from now. So I can't really comment on the results but the hydrometer reading tasted fine. (warm and flat)  :cheers:
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Al-Loves-Wine on August 08, 2014, 12:24:11 PM
I haven't used my package of Belle yet, how dry did yours get Roger? I believe somebody had said the the Danstar was quite comparable to the WLP566 in performance.
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Roger on August 08, 2014, 07:12:06 PM
I haven't used my package of Belle yet, how dry did yours get Roger? I believe somebody had said the the Danstar was quite comparable to the WLP566 in performance.
Oh not bad only 0.997 from 1.047.  :frazzled:
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Waterlogged on August 09, 2014, 06:47:55 PM
Talked to Kyle today at your st liquor store and he said he brewed a sasion at hight temps and it was all funk.  I think my 22 degree cellar will be prefect.
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: jamie_savoie on August 10, 2014, 11:00:41 AM
Depend on the strain but Belle Saison would the cleanest of the saison strains out there imo.  A little peppery and a bit spicy and silky mouthfeel.  That strain is not temp dependant, will produce similar results at either 70F or 80F.
Also, imo if you really want funk you need Brett
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: Al-Loves-Wine on August 10, 2014, 03:03:55 PM
@jamie_savoie (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1182)  Was it you that had mentioned that Belle was similar in characteristics to 3711?
Title: Re: LF: Washed Saison Yeast
Post by: jamie_savoie on August 11, 2014, 11:07:56 AM
@jamie_savoie (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1182)  Was it you that had mentioned that Belle was similar in characteristics to 3711?
similar but Belle Saison is a little less peppery/spicy.  Silky mouthfeel is about the same