New Brunswick Craft Brewers Association
Brewing => Yeast => Topic started by: TomFogarty on March 20, 2012, 10:23:28 PM
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Has anyone used this yeast before? I checked on their website but I don't see it listed... I'd love to get my hands on a slant to give it the 'ol college try!
According to a few places I've checked, this super high gravity yeast can ferment up to 25% ABV...not that you'd ever need a beer that strong :wavebeer:
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hmm... bigger ABV means bigger cell-count... this one's gonna need a monster starter... i.e. a whole beer's yeast-cake, to reach that.
I suspect pushing it above 15% will be a big problem without some serious TLC.
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Yeah, one guy said he used a 1 gallon starter at about 1.050 OG... it'd be a project for sure.
For now, I'll have to stick with finishing with wine yeast. Just pitched 3 packs of 1118 into my barley wine. It was already 10% and I added more sugar to bump the gravity from 1.025 to 1.066. Seems to have taken off quite nicely! I think I'm going to have to dry hop the heck out of it to balance the flavour.
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Watch out for 1118 above about 12%... bad things happen (congener party in your face).
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Oh don't worry. I intended for this to be shenanigans most foul, it will be very much a sipping beer.
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Wlp would be white labs not wyeast. Try the white labs site
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An interesting strain this one - Tom - if you have this, would be nice to wash it and contribute to the library when you're done. The comments on it seem to be positive...
http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/strains_wlp099.html (http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/strains_wlp099.html)
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My bad haha guess I was looking in the wrong place! Anyone know of a good place to order their products? I'd rather stay away from getting it online, but I'm assuming there's no where local that would carry it.
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try asking Noble Grape
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Unfortunately they only deal with Wyeast and White labs is their competitor. No such luck on that front
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They have a list of retailers in Canada on their site. Mostly Ontario though.
http://www.whitelabs.com/stores/canada.html
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Perhaps Noble Grape can get you Wyeast 4347. They claim it has an alcohol tolerance of 21%. http://www.wyeastlab.com/rw_yeaststrain_detail.cfm?ID=52
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Lots of PQ too so he's good. It'd be fine shipping from PQ to here.
I hear WhiteLabs is good yeast, much better than Wyeast
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Lots of PQ too so he's good. It'd be fine shipping from PQ to here.
I hear WhiteLabs is good yeast, much better than Wyeast
I call shenanigans. Evidence please.
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Jason at Beer Grains Supply ships his White Labs stuff 2-day with Canada Post and includes a cold pack:
http://beergrains.com/store/#ecwid:cate ... rt=nameAsc (http://beergrains.com/store/#ecwid:category=2123025&mode=category&offset=0&sort=nameAsc)
If you ask him nicely, he'd likely setup a discount code for the club. I hear he's done if for another club or two. ;)
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I'm in favour of this. I'd be willing to chip in for a vile or two just for our library. Perhaps if we get enough of us together, and buy enough of a variety, the exec would pay the shipping???
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I'd be game for that
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Lots of PQ too so he's good. It'd be fine shipping from PQ to here.
I hear WhiteLabs is good yeast, much better than Wyeast
I call shenanigans. Evidence please.
Chris, I've seen thread after thread after thread about wyeast smack packs not swelling, or swelling poorly. I know several brewers in the states who use WL yeast almost exclusively (almost because they also use fermentis on occasion when they feel the need to use dry yeast), and they claim they've very rarely had issues with the yeast. Most of them just pitch one or two vials without making a starter and they get very active fermentation within a reasonably short period of time.
This is of course all anecdotal, however, i'm inclined to believe it considering I've personally seen smacked wyeast fail miserably at least twice. I've heard similar issues, including from people who live in Oregon which is where Wyeast labs is.
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Meh. My anecdotal evidence says they're great. I've used Wyeast dozens of times to good effect.
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Ive used wyeast alot(eh Richard) and I've only had one pack swell up. I do a starter and once I pitch the yeast I have airlock activity in a couple hours. I haven't had a failed batch with there yeast. I tend to have off flavors with dry yeast. Even with white labs yeast it's recommended to make a starter to get proper cell count.
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so far I've used 6 differant wyeast strain and only 1056 swelled (alot too). The last 2 I used were packaged last sept and june of last year, each took 2-3 days to get started (and 0 swell) but once started they were monster. I've never tried WLP but I'M pretty happy with wyeast and will continue to use their yeasts
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I've had excellent results with Wyeast. The smack packs don't always swell big, but they sure work! Some of the best Craft Breweries in the US use Wyeast... including Allagash. I think it would be interesting to have a head to head with White Labs and Wyeast and put some of the anecdotes to the test ;-)
Actually, at the end of the day, I believe they both produce very good yeast. Most issues are in the hand that yeilds them :facepalm: