New Brunswick Craft Brewers Association
Brewing => Equipment => Topic started by: ECH on March 27, 2014, 12:39:28 AM
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Found this on Home Hardware.
http://homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Outdoor-Living/Seasonal/Barbecues/Outdoor-Burners/Propane/30-Quart-Stainless-Steel-Turkey-Fryer-Boiler-Set/_/N-2pqfZ67l/Ne-67n/Ntk-All_EN/R-I6420770?Ntt=turkey+fryer (http://homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Outdoor-Living/Seasonal/Barbecues/Outdoor-Burners/Propane/30-Quart-Stainless-Steel-Turkey-Fryer-Boiler-Set/_/N-2pqfZ67l/Ne-67n/Ntk-All_EN/R-I6420770?Ntt=turkey+fryer)
30quart (7.5gallon) SS pot with spigot valve, with 38000btu propane burner, plus a bunch of extras.
$110+HST, worth investing in for someone starting out with partial grain with the aspirations of getting into full grain eventually?
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I think we all started out with a kit like this at some time. However, the faucet will do you no good. You won't get any fittings for it to connect tubing...
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Not bad options without propane...
http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Outdoor-Living/Seasonal/Barbecues/Accessories/Miscellaneous/28L-Aluminum-Turkey-Fryer-Pot/_/N-2pqfZ67l/Ne-67n/Ntk-All_EN/R-I6320546?Ntt=turkey+fryer
http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Outdoor-Living/Seasonal/Barbecues/Accessories/Miscellaneous/50L-Stainless-Steel-Turkey-Fryer-Pot/_/N-2pqfZ67l/Ne-67n/Ntk-All_EN/R-I6320547?Ntt=turkey+fryer
Not sure what your plan was, but doing a partial with propane might be difficult... Probably easier on the stove
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Why would be any different with a propane burner than is someone had a propane stove? (or a regular stove for that matter) Just taking the burner and the moisture from the boil out of the house.
The spigot valve had me wondering if it could be used. If nothing else, at least is a pre-drilled hole for a ball valve.
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Why would be any different with a propane burner than is someone had a propane stove? (or a regular stove for that matter) Just taking the burner and the moisture from the boil out of the house.
The spigot valve had me wondering if it could be used. If nothing else, at least is a pre-drilled hole for a ball valve.
Well I dont do partials but you will be working with only a few Litres at a time I assume? You will boil off quicker with propane, you will need to turn it way down or boil more. And maintaining temp for any type of mash/steep might be tougher with propane... Definitely do-able, just seems like it might be a bit more difficult. Just my opinion
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Well I think it would be a good starter to get you going. Like Dan mentioned, your steeping will be the only complicated part. But you would be alright as long as you did your steeping inside your house/shed/garage where you didn't lose much temperature. Then you could move outside for your boil. I did a partial about a month ago on my stove top, covered my old aluminum pot and it actually held temps quite well for an hour which had surprised me.
You should seriously consider coming to a mashoccur, or one of the meetings. You will go home with your head spinning with information. Chris can give you the details if you're interested.
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If I bought one of the 7.5 gallon pots is there anyone in the club that can put a spigot on it?
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If I bought one of the 7.5 gallon pots is there anyone in the club that can put a spigot on it?
Club has a tool set you can sign out, should be a sign out sheet in Member section.
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Would love to come to a meeting, unfortunately your meetings are Saturday afternoon, and I have a home based business (hobby shop) that Sat. afternoon is probably one of my busiest times.
My plan is to start with a partial grain kit (1 or 2), to get the feel of it, and in the process make a mash tun (usual drink cooler method) and go full grain afterwards.
Just thought this set up would be a good starting point so I am not buying more equipment when I do go full grain later on.
I guess my question would be to anyone that has seen this pot, is the spigot valve welded to the pot? Or threaded and held on with nuts?
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If I bought one of the 7.5 gallon pots is there anyone in the club that can put a spigot on it?
Club has a tool set you can sign out, should be a sign out sheet in Member section.
Yeah, there's a punch that we bought specifically for this, but you'll need a weldless bulkhead and 1/2" ball valve. Do you have those already?
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Get this and have it done with. No running around to save 10 bucks.
http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/8_Gallon_Brew_Kettle_p/8-weldless-.htm
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Get this and have it done with. No running around to save 10 bucks.
http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/8_Gallon_Brew_Kettle_p/8-weldless-.htm
Ditto.. It's well worth the extra few dollars. You'll save in the end and it will make things much easier for yourself.
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Get this and have it done with. No running around to save 10 bucks.
http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/8_Gallon_Brew_Kettle_p/8-weldless-.htm
You'll still need to buy a burner though.
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That's the thing, sure I save $10 on the pot, but the Home Hardware one comes with the burner, which separately is about $50. So in the end I am saving about $40 with the HH set up.
I do like the OBK pot though.
Wife wants to keep the boiling out of the house if at all possible. I have a coleman propane camp stove, just not sure if it would put out enough heat even with both burners to get 5 gallons to a boil. And I don't think the side burner on the BBQ would be enough to do it, nevermind the amount of weight on the side of the BBQ.
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Looks like a good deal to me I might get one of these for outdoor or social brewing since my electric setup is quite stationary. If the spigot sucks you can change it I can help you with that I built 3 kettles last year and have helped some other members punch holes. It's not very hard though. But if you need to find adapters for it you can likely find what you need at Eddy group one of our members Fhilo works there and can help you find almost anything you need to make it work.
:cheers:
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Kent usually carries a 48qt aluminum pot and 70K btu burner for a little over $100 in the summer. Got through a couple years of brewing with it.
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I started out with this:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/aluminum-turkey-fryer-36-qt-0853230p.html#.UzRn461dXWw
It was plenty big enough for 5 gallon batches and it's only $89
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Hmmm. I didn't look at the price at HH. This is bigger and cheaper.
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But Aluminum as opposed to SS.
Everything I am reading tells me to stay away from Aluminum for brewing.
I did look at that one first and thought great, but then I saw that it was aluminum.
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I'm shopping around for a new brew kettle at the moment as well. My current pot is aluminum and I've had no problems with it, it just isn't big enough.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/faq-aluminum-pots-boil-kettles-49449/
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There's nothing wrong with aluminum kettles. Here's a good article to read. http://beersmith.com/blog/2010/08/17/aluminum-vs-stainless-best-beer-brewing-pots/
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Yeah and if u get the weldless bulkhead spigot from obk u can bring over your pot if u want and we'll install it for u. Roger and lots of others in the club can help u as well if u want to sign out the punch...
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That brew kettle is fantastic for the price I would say $100 plus shipping and $39.99 for a burner from walmart or kents is your best route
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You can get a pretty good burner from Canadian Tire for $49. http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/outdoor-living/bbqs-smokers-accessories/propane-deep-fryers/masterchef-stand-fryer-0853259p.html#.UziEcK1dUvk
A couple of our members have this. I'm picking one up as a second burner tomorrow.
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Think I will get one as well. Was going to pick one up on Amazon.com, but is only a couple bucks cheaper, so by the time you factor in the shipping and US exchange, it is much cheaper at CT.
Ended up picking up the 8 gallon brew pot at OBK, among a few other things.
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You can get a pretty good burner from Canadian Tire for $49. http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/outdoor-living/bbqs-smokers-accessories/propane-deep-fryers/masterchef-stand-fryer-0853259p.html#.UziEcK1dUvk
A couple of our members have this. I'm picking one up as a second burner tomorrow.
I was looking at that one very recently. Would 60,000 BTUs be powerful enough to bring 10 gal batches to a rolling boil?
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I was looking at that one very recently. Would 60,000 BTUs be powerful enough to bring 10 gal batches to a rolling boil?
Mine is a 65K burner from kents - came with an almost 50L aluminum kettle which I used for a year or so before I came into a keggle (I still use it for heating strike and sparge water). Those burners are way more than adequate for a 10G batch, you can get a very intense boil out of them I always turned mine down so as to not overdo my OG...
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Oh yeah. I think Fhilo is brewing 10 gallon batches using a 30000BTU burner.
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I've been doing 10 on my really super crappy 30k turkey fryer burner. But with those you have to modify the timer so it stays on, zip ties work well.
But I also have one like Chris linked from CT for my HLT on the gravity stand , and they do work pretty well, and they are much cleaner burning than those cheap turkey fryer setups. I am going to get rid of it fairly soon though, cause it turns my kettle black every time I use it and go with something better.
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Perfect. Last piece of equipment missing for my "official" move to all grain from partial. Just waiting for this shitty weather to end! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
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I had stuck this one in my Amazon cart before I saw the one on Canadian Tire, and before I could take it out, my wife bought it. Oh well, pay a bit more after tax and shipping.
Bought it based on one of the reviewers saying he used it for beer making, so figured it had to be a decent one.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001D32QK/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001D32QK/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item)
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Oh well. It'll do the trick for sure :cheers:
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Good price.
You could buy this one and brew inside: http://www.amazon.com/6530-ProChef-3000-Watt-Commercial-Induction/dp/B0037Z7HQ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395922509&sr=8-1&keywords=max+burton+6530
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I've looked into induction cooktops before. Unfortunately, the kettles that OBK sells, wouldn't work. I've read that if a magnet doesn't stick to the pot, induction wouldn't work.
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OBK pots are stainless steel, so it should work, but yeah, if a magnet doesn't stick, then it won't work on induction. But if a magnet doesn't stick, then there isn't any steel content in it, or at least very little.
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300 series stainless steel isn't magnetic. Unfortunately, most of what you get for brewing is 300 series stainless steel. Some kettles may have a multi-layer base with a different kind of steel in it. If that's the case, it may work on an induction burner.
Here's a good article my google-fu turned up: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/11/19/2746568.htm
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Yeah Ive asked OBK before and their line of pots are not induction compatible.
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Here's a great article about induction: http://byo.com/component/k2/item/2967-induction-heat (http://byo.com/component/k2/item/2967-induction-heat)
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I bought the OBK 8 Gallon pot and it's great- can't beat the value with the ball valve and thermometer installed. If I could do it again I'd get a 10g pot though as it's a little tight doing BIAB with 8g
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You can get a pretty good burner from Canadian Tire for $49. http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/outdoor-living/bbqs-smokers-accessories/propane-deep-fryers/masterchef-stand-fryer-0853259p.html#.UziEcK1dUvk
A couple of our members have this. I'm picking one up as a second burner tomorrow.
I just picked one up today, hoping to get a brew in tomorrow morning and still make the meeting. Anyone able to give me an idea of the boil off rate with this fryer? The last couple batches have been on the stove and haven't had a very strong boil, so I want to get beersmith close to accurate.
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Try to keep it at a gentle boil. Start with a 1 gallon/hr boil off rate.
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This is one factor that you'll just have to get a feel for. It depends solely on how much gas you feed your boil.
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I put mine together today. The stand is a bit flimsy compared to the Blichmann (duh!), but it has a 10psi regulator, and it's pretty easy to adjust the venturi tube to get a nice clean blue flame. It's also quite a bit louder than the Blichmann, but considering it's 60 000 BTU for $50, I think it's a steal.
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Thanks Chris, I'll hopefully be able to report back on it tomorrow. I'm a little nervous of the noise scaring the neighbors, as I'll be brewing on my apartment balcony. Although from all the equipment they've seen me carting in here over the last year I think they'll be glad to see it's not a meth lab.
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It's not too loud. Have you tried it out yet?
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Nope, just put it together, firing up early am. Doesn't see. Like I need to worry too much about an initial burn off eh?
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You're going to burn off the paint on the supports for sure. It'll have a chemical smell, but it should only take 20 minutes or so. Basically by the time your strike water is heated. Happy brew day!
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Here, get this - you'll be good for a while.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-bbq-outdoor-cooking/fredericton/propane-tank/584814730?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true