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Beer Recipes and Food => Mead, Wine, and Cider Recipes => Topic started by: DandyMason on February 07, 2012, 08:33:10 AM

Title: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 07, 2012, 08:33:10 AM
Hey guys, Ive got a hard lemonade thats about ready.. first one ive ever made.

I am likely looking to backsweeten a bit and need to carbonate. For carbonating I had planned on just adding some priming sugar, but I was wondering can I add more lemonade concentrate to backsweeten AND for carbonating?

Whats the best way to go about this?
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Chris Craig on February 07, 2012, 09:21:29 AM
You won't be able to back sweeten if you're going to carbonate it in the bottle unless you use an unfermentable sugar like lactose.  The yeast will eat any fermentable sugar you give it, so all you'd get is more alcohol.

So, you can back sweeten with lactose, and carbonate with priming sugar, or you can back sweeten with the lemonade concentrate or sugar after stabilizing, and have no carbonation.

You could think about sweetening when you serve.  A bit of simple syrup works well in the glass.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 07, 2012, 09:30:58 AM
Okay makes sense. Could I backsweeten with splenda or something? and then just carbonate with sugar? Any idea how much to backsweeten 23 L?
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: HappyHax0r on February 07, 2012, 09:38:01 AM
You can backsweeten with any non-fermentable sugar. The best choice IMO is something along the lines of stevia as it tastes almost exactly like sugar. Watch it, it's strong and a little goes a very long way.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Richard on February 07, 2012, 09:39:52 AM
You could back-sweeten with splenda/stevia/etc but the result will taste different than if you used  lactose.

Do you have kegs? I'd just stabilise the yeast w/campden or whatever, add real sugar (sucrose), and force-carb.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Chris Craig on February 07, 2012, 09:41:25 AM
Yes, you can use Splenda.  I'll taste like a "diet" drink though, so if you don't mind that, you're good.

Take a sample of the lemonade of about 1L.  Sweeten it a bit at a time until it's where you want it.  Then, sweeten the rest at the same proportion.  

Carbonate with 3/4 cup dextrose as normal.

::EDIT:: When I made mine, I actually stopped fermentation when it got down to 1020. Not sure how Splenda would affect the gravity.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 07, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
Yeah I am planning on kegging this... but I have ~23-24 L of it so I was going to bottle 6 or 7 L. So yeah Richard that sounds good for my keg... and Im thinking I will just add a bit of stevia/splenda for sweetening and some priming sugar for the bottles.

The 1 L sampling is a good idea... I have no idea how much ill need. I don't want it to be too sweet, so I won't be putting in a whole lot.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Kyle on February 07, 2012, 11:16:27 AM
I've done back-sweetened, carbonated non-beer things in the past. Basically, what Richard suggests is the way I do it:

after fermentation, stabilize to kill yeast; add a small amount of sweetner (preferably dextrose disolved in boiled, cooled water) to keg; stir, sample; add more to taste;
then force carb to about 3.5 volumes.

As for the left over, I'd just pop that in another keg!
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 07, 2012, 12:54:19 PM
Thats true Kyle. Might just put it in two kegs, im not big on bottle conditioning anyway.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: brew on February 07, 2012, 02:23:23 PM
OK - so what is the recipe you used? I'd like to find a good recipe for hard lemonade...
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Chris Craig on February 07, 2012, 02:36:42 PM
Quote from: "brew"
OK - so what is the recipe you used? I'd like to find a good recipe for hard lemonade...


Try this brew.  It's pretty good.  http://skeeterpee.com/ (http://skeeterpee.com/)
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 07, 2012, 03:38:57 PM
hahah Thats an awesome site. Recipe looks good too

I accidentally bought some pink lemonade concentrate so I have a mix in mine. Still tastes good so far. But yeah I guess the only thing with concentrate is, some of them have potassium sorbate... I read this after mine was in the primary but the gravity seemed to go down so Im hoping its fine.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Chris Craig on February 07, 2012, 03:57:23 PM
Yeah, I've made it with the frozen concentrate too.  It turned out great.  Didn't last too long this summer past. The girls drank it as fast as I could open it :D
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 07, 2012, 04:02:52 PM
hahah yeah definitely more of a summer drink, Ill let you know how mine turns out..
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: brew on February 07, 2012, 04:11:52 PM
Yeah I gotta try this... did you finish it all the way down below  1.000?
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: HappyHax0r on February 07, 2012, 04:36:32 PM
Quote from: "ChrisCraig"
Yeah, I've made it with the frozen concentrate too.  It turned out great.  Didn't last too long this summer past. The girls drank it as fast as I could open it :D


Well that certainly explains the new child on the way ;).
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Richard on February 07, 2012, 04:56:33 PM
Hmmm. Think I might make me some of that skeeter-pee and add some ginger root; looks similar to my alcoholic ginger beer recipe.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 08, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
I am kegging the hard lemonade right now.. It fermented down to 1.005 so it ended up being pretty strong. I am going to add real sugar and then force carb... I THOUGHT I had something to stabilize the yeast, but apparently I dont... So whats the worst that might happen? It will continue to ferment in the keg? I could pick some campden tablets up tomorrow, just wanted to get your guys' input first
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Kyle on February 08, 2012, 08:58:25 PM
yes, it will undergo another fermentation, and you will get slightly higher abv
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 08, 2012, 09:00:41 PM
Think it will affect the taste much? Its already 7.7%... I may hold off on the kegging and get me some stabilizer.... hahah
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Chris Craig on February 08, 2012, 09:42:23 PM
Good idea.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Richard on February 09, 2012, 01:21:14 AM
I'd say don't bother with the sugar and just force-carb; people can sweeten their drink to taste :P
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 09, 2012, 12:46:23 PM
Good point Richard.

I took a sample and its pretty damn good

Wheres the best place to get some campden tablets locally anyway?
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Chris Craig on February 09, 2012, 12:55:05 PM
I'm pretty sure you can get them at the Scoop & Save.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Richard on February 09, 2012, 01:30:01 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: DandyMason on February 09, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
I guess wine kitz sell 50 for 2 bucks, and thats on the way home, so Ill just swing in there. Thanks
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: chrismccull on February 10, 2013, 05:44:45 PM
Did many of you try the skeeter-pee?  If you did, would you make it again?
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Richard on February 10, 2013, 05:57:57 PM
I did, but I didn't use enough yeast - they're not kidding about needing a shitload due to the high-pH high-gravity low-nutrient situation.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: Chris Craig on February 10, 2013, 06:03:22 PM
I was just thinking about making another batch actually.  I made still have a bottle from the summer before last.  I may may make a lower alcohol version and keg it for the summer.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: chrismccull on February 10, 2013, 06:42:28 PM
I'd like to make some that is 4.5% - 5%.
Title: Re: Hard Lemonade
Post by: brew on February 11, 2013, 12:01:59 AM
I tried it last year but it was more than 10%, took forever to ferment and ended up not that great.ld love to be able to make one that my wife could drink so im always on the lookout for a recipe that works. I probly need more practice as well. Be interested if someone has a great recipe that ferments out nicely...