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Beer Recipes and Food => All Grain => 14 - India Pale Ale (IPA) => Topic started by: Richard on July 14, 2011, 12:27:55 PM

Title: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Richard on July 14, 2011, 12:27:55 PM
From http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/loose-c ... ndex4.html (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/loose-cannon-brew-off-22278/index4.html)

OG 1.072 FG 1.012 7.9% ABV, 72 IBU
White labs 001 yeast (Cal. Ale)

5 gal batch (into the fermenter)

10.5 lbs 2-Row
1.5 lbs Munich
0.5 lbs Carafoam
0.5 lbs Carastan (34 degrees L)

Mash at 153 F

.25 oz each of Amarillo, Centennial and Magnum - FWH
.125 oz Chinook - 60 min.
.25 oz Magnum - 60 min.
.5 oz each of Amarillo and Centennial - 10 min.
.5 oz each of Amarillo and Centennial - 5 min.

1 oz each of Centennial and Palisade - Dry Hop


I'm going to need to make a hops/grain order...
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Gil Breau on July 14, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
That the Hop IPA?

I tried the dobbel IPA on the weekend after we went back home, was pretty good.
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Richard on July 14, 2011, 03:24:15 PM
Supposedly the Hop^3 i reviewed - it's got a profile I'd like to use as a starting point for a black IPA, so I'm hoping this at least comes close.
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: JohnQ on July 21, 2011, 09:20:03 PM
I really want to do this one, I've enjoyed a couple of the originals now and I like it lots.
We don't have Carastan as an option from our grain supplier, do you think the crystal 40 would make an appropriate sub?
Of course, I've got 11 pounds of hops, but no Amarillo or Chinook...maybe Cascade and Nugget?? I guess 11 pounds wasn't enough hops after all :frazzled: My FREEZER ISN'T THAT BIG ARRRGH :!:  :!:  :!:

JQ
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Richard on July 21, 2011, 09:26:46 PM
I think without amarillo you're dead in the water on this one... You might end up with something good, but not comparable. Suspect crystal 40 is an appropriate sub, but again you're getting further off the original with every sub.

My most recent bottling "crystal IPA" was an attempt to see what massive quantities of low-L crystal malt would do to an IPA. I only bottled it yesterday, so it's a little early to tell if I got even close to the mark. My first impression is that the candy-like quality of the loose cannon comes from a hefty quantity of low-L crystal and a high mash temp. I suspect the 1lb in this recipe is lacking, and that at a minimum they were at more like 2lbs. Tasting the non-carbed beer suggests that at least the flavour is closer than other homebrew IPA benchmarks; not sure about the body yet. Am a little worried the body will be too thick and cloying, so some tradeoff between mash temp and crystal % is likely to be necessary.

I'll have some of the stuff chilled for the meeting - it's an interesting academic brew if nothing else ;)
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: JohnQ on July 30, 2011, 07:19:45 PM
Austin Home Brew has all the hops required to pull this off, I'm ordering enough for me...hop aboard...as it were.
JQ
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Richard on July 30, 2011, 10:58:09 PM
How much is amarillo?
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: JohnQ on July 31, 2011, 06:50:59 AM
Everything on the list, including Amarillo is $2 oz.

JQ
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: JohnQ on July 31, 2011, 06:54:30 AM
They also have the yeast, $7
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Dave Savoie on July 31, 2011, 07:10:29 AM
John do they Also have Simcoe hops also ?
If so Id like 3 OZ of Amarillo and 3 OZ of Simcoe
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: JohnQ on July 31, 2011, 07:25:46 AM
No Simcoe, here's the list...

Pellets...
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/index.php?cPath=178_21_93_70

Whole...
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/index.php?cPath=178_21_93_94

JQ
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Dave Savoie on July 31, 2011, 07:38:24 AM
3 OZ Summit and 3 OZ of Amarillo
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: JohnQ on July 31, 2011, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: "Dave Savoie"3 OZ Summit and 3 OZ of Amarillo
OK, but I may not be able to deliver this time, I'll try and drop at Kent if I can, but can't guarantee it, don't know when the crossing will happen for certain...so you may have to arrange another delivery method or pickup, is that ok?
JQ
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Dave Savoie on July 31, 2011, 09:36:58 AM
Yea thats fine Ill be coming to Freddy during mid AUG for sure
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Kyle on July 31, 2011, 10:40:09 AM
Our grain supplier has bulk Simcoe pellets in 11# packs, for about $126 IIRC, at some point, I'll put together a split for them.
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Richard on July 31, 2011, 10:55:59 AM
Put me down for 5oz amarillo, 5oz magnum, 5oz centennial, 3oz Chinook, and 2oz Palisade... So I guess $40 + whatever my part of delivery is. Will try to remember to bring cash to the meet :)

On a related (OT) note, I think once the next grain order comes in it's time for another hops order.

I wouldn't bother getting the yeast if I were you... it's the same stuff as S-05, just in a liquid pouch rather than dry form.

lol @ AHB selling "Hop Dust" (aka the shit they couldn't sell otherwise). If they'd collected it from whole hops I'd be interested 'cause it'd be mostly lupulin, but I think it's from pellets.
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: JohnQ on July 31, 2011, 11:42:03 AM
Quote from: "Richard"Put me down for 5oz amarillo, 5oz magnum, 5oz centennial, 3oz Chinook, and 2oz Palisade... So I guess $40 + whatever my part of delivery is. Will try to remember to bring cash to the meet :)

OK,

QuoteOn a related (OT) note, I think once the next grain order comes in it's time for another hops order.

Yeah, I think as soon as this year's harvest starts to come in.

QuoteI wouldn't bother getting the yeast if I were you... it's the same stuff as S-05, just in a liquid pouch rather than dry form.

Ta, got some of that, Cannon Hop^3 here we come!

We are adding Yeast to this grain order, right?

JQ
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Dave Savoie on July 31, 2011, 12:18:34 PM
Yes Bulk Simcoe would be amazing I want it for brewing IPA's !!!!
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Richard on July 31, 2011, 04:16:03 PM
Aye I'm down with some simcoe :D
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: JohnQ on July 31, 2011, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: "Richard"lol @ AHB selling "Hop Dust" (aka the shit they couldn't sell otherwise). If they'd collected it from whole hops I'd be interested 'cause it'd be mostly lupulin, but I think it's from pellets.

Yeah, it is from Pellets, now if it were .69 a pound instead of an ounce...when you consider that much of the stuff we got from HopsDirect last time wasn't much more than .69/oz (=$11.04/lb...get serious) and some of it was less, in fact 8 of the 11 varieties I have in the freezer were less than that.

And +1 on the simcoe buy.

I think I'll check with Hops Direct about a possible bulk discount this time, they said no to 40 lbs, but that was when they were the only ones with significant stock on hand, they might have a different story early in the season.

JQ
Title: Re: Loose Cannon Clone
Post by: Dave Savoie on July 31, 2011, 07:20:39 PM
Ive been wanting Simcoe hops for a long long time Id be interested in getting 2 Lbs !!!!!