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Uncategorized Boards => General => Topic started by: Dave Savoie on June 15, 2011, 03:02:54 PM

Title: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Dave Savoie on June 15, 2011, 03:02:54 PM
I just spoke with Best Metals Fredericton about Sankey Kegs and they do have a fair amount of them and he will be getting back to me they usually charge $1.50 per Lbs
an empty keg weighs 29.7 pounds Im going to see if they can cut the top out of them prior to purchase !!!

29.7 pounds x 1.5 = $45
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Kyle on June 15, 2011, 03:38:39 PM
Dave you are amazing, I just spent $75 on one.
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Jmac00 on June 15, 2011, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: "Kyle"
I just spent $75 on one.


there's a sucker born everyday  :lol:  :lol:

jk
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: brew on June 16, 2011, 07:53:41 AM
Dave that is a great price (especially for Best Metals - they are often quite expensive when selling scrap that has a purpose) - I called them a few months ago and they didn't have any... they did have some of the 30L rounded type with the ferrule on top and sides though... You may want to ensure you have a look at the keg before they cut it to make sure its the kind of keg you're after - a lot of them don't say their capacity right on them....
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Kyle on June 16, 2011, 07:57:29 AM
Well, the one I got is in good shape and waaaay cheaper than a SS pot, so I'm content. I will, however, keep the Best Metals ones in mind for furure expansion.
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Dean on June 16, 2011, 08:24:20 AM
What are you doing with these Kyle? Are you just cutting the whole top off and turning it into a big pot that gets used on a propane burner?
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Kyle on June 16, 2011, 11:07:03 AM
Well, brew is doing as you discuss, with a propane setup. I will be going electric, using a 220v 30a dryer circuit to power a hot water heater element for boiling.

Winter brewing outside = not for me.
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Jmac00 on June 16, 2011, 11:13:13 AM
i've seen pics of guys that cut the bottom of the keg off, then use the sanke opening to fit a tri-clover clamp on and use it to gravity drain the kettle. then you wouldn't need a pump i guess? but you'd have to build a stand to hold the keg.
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Gil Breau on June 16, 2011, 11:14:40 AM
Quote from: "Kyle"
Winter brewing outside = not for me.


Same. Stovetops are annoying but less so than the cold.

I'm actually looking into modifying my summer plan (which has been still progressing, coming slowly but progressing) of a three tier system and making it with a gas/propane stovetop burners....
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Dave Savoie on June 16, 2011, 11:17:25 AM
The stovetop burners dont have enough BTU's im almost 100%
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Gil Breau on June 16, 2011, 11:24:15 AM
No less than a heating element on a stove i would figure...and more even heat distribution.

Can't see why not. The HUGE BTU burners are unsafe for inside so I gotta figure something out.
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Dave Savoie on June 16, 2011, 11:33:20 AM
Electric kettle elements are about 25-30$ use your dryer outlet when you wanna brew !!!
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: brew on June 16, 2011, 11:54:58 AM
For sure electric is nice inside - Home depot has 4500 watt 240v elements for like < $30 - they are low density as well which helps a _lot_ to prevent burning. Two of them comes in at around 40 amps, 9000 watts - not bad really. You can get 1/2 couplings (1" 304 stainless) from fastenal for like around $5 each. Weld or hard solder them in and you got a nice screw in port for the element.

For propane, the stove tops are like 4000 - 8000 BTU - just won't cut if for even a 5 gallon brew. I have a 65000 btu turkey fryer which does work, but not as well as the 100000+ burners you can get...

Jmac that's a cool idea - turn the keg upside down - I wonder if there's like a special ferrule type fitting you can get to drain with, or if a person would need to make something? I've seen bottom drains made by welding a regular copper elbow to a hole in the bottom of the keg - then copper out through the handle of the lip to a ball valve... I suppose these both make using propane more tricky though? Or maybe not, perhaps propane heating a bottom drain would not be a problem? Be great for electric only use though...
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Dean on June 16, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: "Kyle"
Well, brew is doing as you discuss, with a propane setup. I will be going electric, using a 220v 30a dryer circuit to power a hot water heater element for boiling.

Winter brewing outside = not for me.


aah, I see.

My garage is heated, you apartment dwellers are welcome to spend an afternoon/evening brewing in it if the need ever arises. just throwing that out there

same goes for storage of your bulky items
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Kyle on June 16, 2011, 01:07:56 PM
thanks Dean, I think that offer will make for some happy winter brewers.
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Jmac00 on June 16, 2011, 01:24:49 PM
other uses for sanke kegs include:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/alterna ... eg-249452/ (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/alternate-use-sanke-keg-249452/)

I'd put some rubber edging over the sharp edges before i used it though, especially after a few wobblie's.
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: brew on June 16, 2011, 01:51:50 PM
That is toooo cool  :shock:  - I have to make one of these - above grade that is...
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: brew on June 16, 2011, 11:22:03 PM
Hi Dave, I know you're not local in town so I took a swing by Best Metals today on my way home from work. The keg they have there does indeed have the top cut off, but the keg is one of those barrel sided type with rounded ends. There is still a Sanke valve at the bottom on the side, and another hole in the middle of the side (2" for a bung or wooden cork). It appears to be a 30 or 40L keg, has a few dings but no holes I could see - would make a great boiler but would need a good stand. They will want a couple bucks a lbs for it anyway (but it will be less than 30 lbs)... I found a picture of a larger scale version of it on the Internet (close version, no center flat / wide ring around the barrel at BM - first pic in link below, center keg):

http://www.crbeernuts.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=864&sid=ec62b0fbb389856ec2bf984aba1a1881

They only have the one, but they said they are getting another one on Saturday that does not have the top cut off, but they seemed to think it was the same type. That makes sense as GMS has one of the exact same type they just recently got in (they will let theirs go for $50)... someone I think is unloading them in town...

I know its hard to check over the phone Dave, so thought I'd let you know - they have no idea how big the keg is and its not printed on the side or bottom... Honestly I was hoping to pick up a cheaper 50L keg for myself if it was a bit bigger and they'd have had more than one... (I know you had dibs!)
Title: Re: Sankey Kegs
Post by: Dave Savoie on June 17, 2011, 07:04:18 AM
Thanks Brew that to me doesnt seem like a good idea !!! the guy told me he had quite of few there.