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Title: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 10, 2011, 05:34:41 PM
Anyone know where I can source a whole shitload of plastic corks + those metal clamps to hold them in under pressure? I'm planning on making use of wine magnums to cut down my bottling time.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Dave Savoie on February 10, 2011, 05:44:19 PM
hmmmmm Wine Kitz and maybe Noble Grape but Wine Kits I think has them
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Jmac00 on February 10, 2011, 05:46:09 PM
what are you bottling? and what type of bottles?
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 10, 2011, 06:25:39 PM
Beer. Wine (Champagne) magnums.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Jmac00 on February 10, 2011, 06:29:59 PM
some/most champagne bottles will take a beer cap  ;)  just need a bench capper
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Brian_S on February 10, 2011, 07:15:23 PM
PS...make sure its a potent bitch of a brew.  Ummm corked strong beer.

B
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 10, 2011, 07:32:08 PM
Why potent? Is there a problem with infection or something?

My intention was just to use it in place of my 500ml bottles for pretty much everything...
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Dave Savoie on February 10, 2011, 09:26:09 PM
bottlnig lots = no fun :(
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 10, 2011, 09:46:38 PM
hence why using 1.5L magnums versus 500ml bottles is an awesome idea... if it won't make the beer suck.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 10, 2011, 09:48:15 PM
Also Jmac: some will but unfortunately the ones I can get can't. C'est la vie.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Jmac00 on February 10, 2011, 10:06:52 PM
Quote from: "Richard"
Also Jmac: some will but unfortunately the ones I can get can't. C'est la vie.


get the ones you can do... :lol:  ...or start kegging  ;)

j/k

i know plastic isn't ideal, but have you considered pop bottles???
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 10, 2011, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: "Jmac00"
i know plastic isn't ideal, but have you considered pop bottles???


Get back, satan.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Jmac00 on February 10, 2011, 10:19:17 PM
i know i know.. :oops:

I just think 1.5L bottles for beer is a bit much..but that's my opinion. I personally found the fischer bottles of 650 too much when i was using them as i normally didn't have a glass big enough..then the second pour was full of sediment....i could of used two glasses i guess..LOL...but i ended up going to kegs.

good luck with the search for the corks...no idea where to get em.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Shawn on February 11, 2011, 10:12:29 AM
Quote from: "Richard"
hence why using 1.5L magnums versus 500ml bottles is an awesome idea... if it won't make the beer suck.


I can't see it making the beer suck... shouldn't make any difference if the beer is 13% or 3%.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 11, 2011, 11:32:01 AM
Jmac: You actually have a very good point about the glass size... I guess this just means I'm gonna need a bigger set of glasses :D

Heads to Walmart to ask: *I just can't fit enough booze in my face at once, can you help me?*
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Dave Savoie on February 11, 2011, 11:42:01 AM
Spumante bottles would serve you best I think or baby duck
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 11, 2011, 11:42:34 AM
Dave: what are those?
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Dave Savoie on February 11, 2011, 12:08:39 PM
Cheap ass champagne

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Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 11, 2011, 12:34:05 PM
Hmm... When I looked at that picture it suddenly became apparent what the problem with my cunning plan is: those bottles are green, not brown. Anyone ever hear of a brown-glass champagne bottle that didn't have Chimay in it? :P

Meanwhile I've been drinking "The End of the World" (La Fin du Monde) -- the Unibroue amber ale. The bottles for that have the same problem, and are brown.

I'm going to bottle up half my AG IPA in a bunch of them using the plastic corks + metal tags... will see how things go compared to the bottle-capped equivalent.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Dave Savoie on February 11, 2011, 12:38:01 PM
as long as you store the bottles in a dark place away from direct sunlight you probably would be fine put them in a box close the lid and the rate at which you drink beer shouldnt be a problem ya wanker  :twisted:
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 11, 2011, 01:17:27 PM
I suspect with the rate at which I drink beer I could leave them outside in the summer in clear glass bottles, but that's besides the point. I will pedantically follow good practice in the hope that it will make up for my lack of imagination :P
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Dave Savoie on February 11, 2011, 01:34:08 PM
Ive heard of spray painting the bottles Black tape off the top 2 "
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 11, 2011, 01:50:03 PM
That's actually not a bad idea... you could stencil something badass on the side, too... hmm...

I wonder how well spraypaint would hold up to oxy-clean + star-san cleaning...
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Dave Savoie on February 11, 2011, 01:54:47 PM
What about the 750ml PET bottles  whith screw caps from Wine kits
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on February 11, 2011, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: "Richard"
Quote from: "Jmac00"
i know plastic isn't ideal, but have you considered pop bottles???


Get back, satan.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Jmac00 on February 11, 2011, 07:32:10 PM
and those cheap ass champagne bottles like baby duck WILL accept a beer cap..... ;)  ;) bottle depot for cheap bottles
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on March 12, 2011, 07:30:51 PM
ok, I used a bunch of bottles from Unibroue (Fin du Monde 750ml's) to bottle an american wheat yesterday. Observation is mostly that the hassle involved in getting the damn (plastic) corks in there and then clamping them is a major pain in the arse. The clamping in particular -- I suspect there may be a machine to do that properly, as doing it by hand is a recipe for pain. Moreover the cork + clamp combo is relatively very expensive compared to crown caps -- depending on your sources it looks like about 10x more expensive: I pay about five bucks for 100 crowns, and I paid 15 bucks for 30 corks/clamps.

Mostly I'd recommend that if people are going to use larger beer bottles, that they stick with those that can be capped with crowns.

I'll probably revisit this with proper champagne/sparkling wine corks when I get a corker, but the clamp + cost issue still stands.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Kyle on March 12, 2011, 07:42:00 PM
2 liter soda water bottles will work, as long as less then about 2.5 vol C02. Just don't use bottles that contained something flavourful like pop. Winekitz sells caps for soda bottles, I think.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Jmac00 on March 12, 2011, 07:54:26 PM
Quote from: "Richard"


Mostly I'd recommend that if people are going to use larger beer bottles, that they stick with those that can be capped with crowns.



Propeller uses large bottles.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Richard on March 12, 2011, 08:08:31 PM
Kyle: yeah I've pretty much decided to go with that for the next batch of "light" (3% -- a real summertime drink) ginger beer I make... I have no shame when it comes to ginger-beer, as I've been producing the stuff since I was a kid (in plastic bottles -- I actually used to ferment the stuff *in* the bottles using bread yeast and de-gas once a day... the result was all over the place.)

Jmac: aye I noticed their porter, but I have to admit I'm not a fan so can't bring myself to drink it just for the bottles. If anyone knows an NB liquor that's selling something other than their porter in larger bottles, please let me know :P
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Jmac00 on March 13, 2011, 01:36:17 PM
i beleive i had some at one point...i'll be going through all my bottles soon to get rid of some, so i'll let you know what i have for the propeller size/style.
Title: Re: Plastic Corks + Metal Twist-Clamps
Post by: Jmac00 on March 15, 2011, 11:45:04 AM
i've got about 8 or 9 of the big propeller bottles if you're interested. just let me know.