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Offline Alain2

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Fredericton water
« on: January 21, 2016, 09:46:23 AM »
How is the Fredericton City water in general?

Should I be adding additives?

I would like to test the water, but those kit are expensive.

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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2016, 09:58:14 AM »
Hey Alain - The city's water is pretty good for brewing. As you heard Steve say at the meeting this weekend - he only filters the water. He doesn't treat it. I filter as well and tend to add some gypsum for hoppy beers, and either baking soda or calcium carbonate for dark beers.

The city posts it's water analysis on their website. You can find it here. http://www.fredericton.ca/en/environment/resources/2015WaterResults.pdf

There are plenty of brewing water calculators out there. Try the one on Brewer's friend to dial in what you need. http://www.brewersfriend.com/water-chemistry/

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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2016, 10:12:41 AM »
I have been playing around with the water for the last year or so... far from an expert here.

I have a $50 carbon filter kit from Everwood that I run all my brew water through. I also add a camden tablet to ensure all the chlorine/chloramine is knocked out.

Depending on the brew, I will also use brewing salts such as gypsum, CaCl, MgSO4 etc. I use the Bru'n water template to help me out. I have uploaded a template that has the Fredericton water profile added.

When using this, here is my workflow:
1. Go to tab 3, Water Adjustment
2. Choose desired profile in cell A4, such as Yellow Bitter for IPA
3. Set the mash and sparge volume in cell J15 and L15
4. Play around with the additions in cell B17-B24 until the Finished Water profile (cell C12-H12) matches close to what the target is
5. Go to adjustment summary (tab 5), check your work and print it off

If you care about pH:
1. Do all of the above
2. Go to tab 4, add your recipe
3. Check estimated pH in cell G27
4. To adjust, either add acid malt on this tab or:
5. You can add lactic acid on tab 3 row 26


Edit: I had some trouble attaching. Here's a link to the file. This will open in Google Docs, but you need to download and open with Excel. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByaKeC7zUdLJOGVpSXIyQW1McEE/view?usp=sharing
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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2016, 10:21:09 AM »
Hey Alain - The city's water is pretty good for brewing. As you heard Steve say at the meeting this weekend - he only filters the water. He doesn't treat it.

I believe he said he was using salts after filtering the water.

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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2016, 11:08:51 AM »
I played with the Bru'n calculator along with the 2015 Water Report. I believe I got all the answers I was looking for.

Now I need to order those magic minerals.


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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2016, 03:30:52 PM »
EZ water calculator is another good one.
http://www.ezwatercalculator.com/
I mostly use bru'n water its more in depth. But I started out using EZ water.

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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2016, 03:38:37 PM »
I played with the Bru'n calculator along with the 2015 Water Report. I believe I got all the answers I was looking for.

Now I need to order those magic minerals.
Last time I was in there noble grape had a number of items you would need to adjust water chemistry.

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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2016, 04:58:39 PM »
@Roger, do you do any additions to your water?
Primary #1 - Empty
Primary #2 - Empty
Primary #3 - Empty
Primary #4 - Empty

Secondary #1- Wheat  (Tangerine and coriander)
Secondary #2 - Dry cider
Secondary #3 - Cream ale fermented with M27
Secondary #4 - Cream ale fermented with M07
Secondary #5 - Merlot

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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2016, 06:02:48 PM »
@jdueck
Yes I do!

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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2016, 08:08:17 AM »
I have the latest water report if someone is interested.

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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2016, 08:51:13 AM »
I have the latest water report if someone is interested.

This is a great find!

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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2016, 09:23:40 AM »
Awesome Alain! That is quite helpful, and interesting to see some significant differences, especially by the Ramada.
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Re: Fredericton water
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2017, 02:49:21 PM »
December 2016 typical water quality analytical results. See attached.

Water is still medium hard.