New Brunswick Craft Brewers Association
Uncategorized Boards => General => Topic started by: feldmann on January 14, 2016, 04:08:09 PM
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http://www.boxingrock.ca/blog/homebrewchallenge
Sounds pretty cool. $51.75 for 11 gallons worth of ingredients isn't a bad deal just on its own. Just debating whether or not I can get someone to grab the black box for me from NS.
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That's awesome! Logistically a challenge but great idea
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Sounds interesting. Probably something the club could pull off via the grain order.
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I like the idea of the mystery ingredients. But aside from getting the boxes to people that are not local, you also have to be present and give a presentation for the competition. So, your beers are essentially being judged right along side of you. I do think we could possibly run with this idea within the club.
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Club should do something like this. This sounds super fun
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I'd be up for trying this within the club. The grain and yeast wouldn't be a problem we just need to get the same hops for everyone to use. Might be a good opportunity to make a club hop order...
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What would be the best way to organize? Have a couple of guys pick ingredients? I'm assuming if we open it up to suggestion everyone is going to want something different. We likely wouldn't need to get boxes together, simply post a list of ingredients each person has to use. Most guys likely have similar grain but @Roger (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1911) is right, a hop order may be needed.
Would this be a good idea for the AGM competition beer that's normally done? That gives time to brew once and then tweak the recipe.
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The way I'd like to do it would be we agree on a style we all enjoy like IPA or stout then we all use the same recipe, same ingredients from the same supplier, same age and same yeast. The only thing that changes is the Brewer, equipment and technique.
Also if there's enough interest in making it a competition for the AGM I'd say go for it.
To make it easier we could pick a style and recipe from the book Brewing Classic Styles. Or any recipe for that matter as long as we all stick to the recipe.
I think it would be very interesting to see if or how each brew would be different.
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I think it would be interesting to just pick ingredients and see what everyone does with them. If we all stick to the exact same recipe we're going to be tasting a lot of, at least, similar beer.
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i think it would be cool to see how creative people would get ... get a headcount on how many people want to participate and have everyone do a 5 gallon batch have 8 or so different malts, some hops and give people the chance at 3 different yeasts and let people go to town - would be interesting to see what people showed up with. Keep the malts fairly simple/standard. As example:
10 pounds 2 row
1 pound light crystal
1 pound dark crystal
1 pound flaked
1 pound rye
.5 pound roasted barley
.5 pound chocolate
...and maybe another couple go-to grains
We could have 2-4 hops to use ... preferably varieties that people are unfamiliar with ... maybe a couple noble hops and a couple american hops (but keep away from cascade, centennial, and the rest of the usual suspects). Or another option for hops we could have 5 different hops and people need to draw 2 from a hat and use those.
yeasts could be an american (US-05), british (S-04) & even lager maybe? Instead of lager could do nottingham or another and have people draw the yeast they need to use ... but keep them all fairly similar yeast strains I'd think
People could use whatever grain they want ... if they want to use half the grains and not touch others, it's up to them. No style guidelines involved, people just vote on best of show.
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I like your suggestions @Jake (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=243) , and I like the idea of having a limited number of hop options and only pick a couple.
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I like Jake's suggestion as well. It would certainly give a large variety of beer.
I remember hearing a podcast where the competition was to use a very limited number of ingredients (1 or 2 grains and hops), so they had to change the technique to make the beer unique (different boil length, different addition times, etc). Would be interesting to try that later on in the year.
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Thanks @robcoombs (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2012) and @shazapple (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2011) ... i'm pretty smrt
If we got an accurate headcount before we did it and the numbers weren't massive, it could be something the club could sponsor for a fun little event. Can't promise that, but worth discussing this weekend at the beer meeting.
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I'd be in ... Agreed with pretty much everything. I think limit ingredients and let ppl choose what they want to use and what they want to brew. Very solid idea!
Also liked what @shazapple (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2011) said ... if we really limit it to a few different grains/hops/yeast varieties, it will force you to use some technique to differentiate ... nice challenge! At the same time, a decent variety of ingredients and you would get a nice spread of styles, which would be interesting ... either way im in!
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Even better! I already know what I'm going to brew, well, depending on the hops.
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sounds like fun. I'm in
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I kinda thought it would be an interesting experiment to all brew the same thing just to see how technique and equipment would make a significant difference. But obviously I'm the only one... :pal:
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I like the idea of there being a list of mandatory ingredients and also having some creativity. Like for example having a set grain bill but you get to choose one or two specialty grains, same with the hops or yeast.
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I think we could do a challenge that impose the same grain bill and bittering hops and leave the dry hop and yeast open.
I recently watched a episode of chop & brew and that is what they did. The difference between the beers was apparently quite interesting.
The black box project is also interesting, but I think it's very wild card and would be hard to judge and compare.
:drunk:
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I'd definitely prefer the grain bill to be left to the brewer by selecting from the grain available.
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Hi, I'M in for this... :banana:
If you are looking for hops, I might have a good solution.
I have this hops from almost a year.
I have 3.5 pound left of polaris at 22 IBU and 7 pound of Willamette 5.2 IBU.
I don't know how much people are interested to participate but I will give this 10 pound for free. We might have enough hops for 15-20 people recipe... I think.
:cheers:
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I think we could do a challenge that impose the same grain bill and bittering hops and leave the dry hop and yeast open.
I recently watched a episode of chop & brew and that is what they did. The difference between the beers was apparently quite interesting.
The black box project is also interesting, but I think it's very wild card and would be hard to judge and compare.
:drunk:
I think we should put some limitations on the hops. for a couple different reasons.
If we leave hop selection open ended without any limits on how much we can use, my prediction is that people won't take advantage of the grain availbale and likely many of us (including myself) will show up with a 95% two row beer that's hammer with late boil hop and dry hop additions, and we're basically judging an IPA competition. That would be the safe play for most, including myself ... but if people are forced to use a couple different hop varieties outside of our comfort zone (with limitations on how many ounces permitted to use), could have some more interesting entries.
That's my only concern with not limiting the amount of hops used ... if people know this is only judging for "best in show", i think most people will just try to hammer with hops because those will typically get voted by our club as the best in show.
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Hi,
I made a list if people are interesting that could be the BOX contents.
You have 2 unlimited BASE malt:
2row malt unlimited.
Wheat malt unlimited.
4 speciality grain: (you use the X amount you like, max 300G)
300G of Munich.
300G of Amber.
300G of Cara 60L.
300G of Honey.
Hops: (I have this amount for 20 BOX )+ (you use the X amount you like)
75G of Polaris.
130G of Willamette.
Yeast will be your choice...
:rock:
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I'm in for a 5 gallon batch.
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I think we could do a challenge that impose the same grain bill and bittering hops and leave the dry hop and yeast open.
I recently watched a episode of chop & brew and that is what they did. The difference between the beers was apparently quite interesting.
The black box project is also interesting, but I think it's very wild card and would be hard to judge and compare.
:drunk:
I think we should put some limitations on the hops. for a couple different reasons.
If we leave hop selection open ended without any limits on how much we can use, my prediction is that people won't take advantage of the grain availbale and likely many of us (including myself) will show up with a 95% two row beer that's hammer with late boil hop and dry hop additions, and we're basically judging an IPA competition. That would be the safe play for most, including myself ... but if people are forced to use a couple different hop varieties outside of our comfort zone (with limitations on how many ounces permitted to use), could have some more interesting entries.
That's my only concern with not limiting the amount of hops used ... if people know this is only judging for "best in show", i think most people will just try to hammer with hops because those will typically get voted by our club as the best in show.
We could always, and I can't believe I'm saying this, make a stipulation that it can't be a hop forward beer?
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Sounds like we'll have a good turnout next Saturday at beer meeting. Lets arm wrestle and the winner gets to make rules.
Or we can just have it as topic of discussion at meeting and hammer out the concept/stipulations.
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Ok, I will give you guys n other idea... because I want to start this...I'm in for any other reason....
:chug:
You need to use this in your recipe...
-Use only 2 base grain...( 2Row,pils,wheat,maris otter, rye, oats, etc...)
-Use only 1 spice.
-use only 1 fruit or a flavoring fruit.
-use only 1 kind of hop.
-use only 1 kind of speciality grain. And
-Choose your yeast..
Open for your comment......................... :cheers:
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Ok, I will give you guys n other idea... because I want to start this...I'm in for any other reason....
:chug:
You need to use this in your recipe...
-Use only 2 base grain...( 2Row,pils,wheat,maris otter, rye, oats, etc...)
-Use only 1 spice.
-use only 1 fruit or a flavoring fruit.
-use only 1 kind of hop.
-use only 1 kind of speciality grain. And
-Choose your yeast..
Open for your comment......................... :cheers:
Interesting idea
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Ok, I will give you guys n other idea... because I want to start this...I'm in for any other reason....
:chug:
You need to use this in your recipe...
-Use only 2 base grain...( 2Row,pils,wheat,maris otter, rye, oats, etc...)
-Use only 1 spice.
-use only 1 fruit or a flavoring fruit.
-use only 1 kind of hop.
-use only 1 kind of speciality grain. And
-Choose your yeast..
Open for your comment......................... :cheers:
Toss in a max amount of grams of hops to use like 30 or60 g
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I think we should have narrow it down to a style, for example say American Pale Ale with minimum 1 uniquely New Brunswick ingredient (and you can't all do fiddleheads).
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So how about this we do a 1,2,3,4 challenge. 1 yeast, 2 base grain, 3 specialty malts, 4 hops. I suggest (1) yeast US-05, (2) base grain 2 row and wheat, (3) Munich, Cristal 40 and something dark like chocolate or black barley and (4) Cascade, Goldings, Chinook, Columbus.
You can choose whatever you want from either selection but you must use the ingredients from the list in as much or little as you want. Either we leave the style to the Brewer and do a best of show or pick a style and judge from that style. My preference would be the latter but I'm open to suggestions...
EDIT: I agree with @Jake (http://nbcba.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=243) about the hops we should put a cap on hop quantity.
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I think we are going to have to do a royal rumble style fight to come up with a firm plan for this. Jake may be the club expert on this
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I think we all have good ideas for a challenge. Maybe it would be nice to pick the best ideas and plan to have 3-4 different competitions during 2016.
I won't be at the meeting this weekend, but I'm in for any challenge you guys decide.
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We could always have a vote after narrowing it down to a few ideas.
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Prepare your pitches for Saturday