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Re: Electrical Power Cord Type
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2014, 10:40:31 AM »
Not grounding your equipment properly is just a bad idea - no offense James but using the ground wire in a 3 wire cable as a neutral line, and not grounding anything to the panel is not only illegal, it can be dangerous (not saying I've never done that though!). Going 4 wire gives you the ability to have a proper neutral wire giving both 240 and 120, while at the same time allowing you to ground your equipment to the panel (where its supposed to). I have a few fireman friends who have told me about electrical fires caused by improper or absent grounding. I hadn't realized how bad it can be, especially around liquids. I'm guessing that's why its been in the electrical code for such a long time.

In a new house with new everything to go with it, getting 3 wire is just creating a problem that needs to be solved. Just solve it now and get 4 wire. While you're at it, get nice heavy stuff as well - 8 gauge will give you lots of room to have nice big ass circuits. You'll never have to think about it again...
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Re: Electrical Power Cord Type
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2014, 10:41:18 AM »
A little off topic, but kind of the same,
Just bought one of these for our delivery vehicle, going to be delivered next week...

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.ca/en/vehicles/i-miev/2014/trims/es/

We'll be discussing electrical cords too!

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Re: Electrical Power Cord Type
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2014, 10:54:20 AM »
Not grounding your equipment properly is just a bad idea - no offense James but using the ground wire in a 3 wire cable as a neutral line, and not grounding anything to the panel is not only illegal, it can be dangerous (not saying I've never done that though!). Going 4 wire gives you the ability to have a proper neutral wire giving both 240 and 120, while at the same time allowing you to ground your equipment to the panel (where its supposed to). I have a few fireman friends who have told me about electrical fires caused by improper or absent grounding. I hadn't realized how bad it can be, especially around liquids. I'm guessing that's why its been in the electrical code for such a long time.

In a new house with new everything to go with it, getting 3 wire is just creating a problem that needs to be solved. Just solve it now and get 4 wire. While you're at it, get nice heavy stuff as well - 8 gauge will give you lots of room to have nice big ass circuits. You'll never have to think about it again...

I never said to not ground your equipment, or the panel for the record. I would just do it slightly differently. I also wouldn't do that on a permanent install. If you're hard wiring something to your main panel, that's where the CEC comes in for sure.

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Re: Electrical Power Cord Type
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2014, 11:14:23 AM »
Oh hell Jake, get a five wire.

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Re: Electrical Power Cord Type
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2014, 12:47:43 PM »
Screw it I'll stick with propane  :facepalm:
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Re: Electrical Power Cord Type
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2014, 12:54:17 PM »
Screw it I'll stick with propane  :facepalm:

I just took a few steps back from my e-brewery desires, haha  :frazzled:
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Re: Electrical Power Cord Type
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2014, 02:25:24 PM »
Electric brewing is not nearly as difficult as it may seem. Once your set up its like magic.  :banana: