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Title: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Chris Craig on January 10, 2012, 10:28:37 AM
I just bought myself a pre-filled used 10lb CO2 cylinder for $120+tax from Atlantic Fire & Safety on Wilsey Rd.  They hydrostatic test is good for 4 more years. They'll fill the tank on-site for $35.  You just need to leave it with them for a day or two.

Great guys to deal with.  Much better than renting a 20lb tank from Air Liquid for $77/yr.

They're at 385 Wilsey Rd. Phone 459-1444 if anybody's interested.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Kyle on January 10, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
thanks - good to know.

Wow, the Air Liquide price has gone up, mine was $99 for three years on a 20 pounder.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: HappyHax0r on January 10, 2012, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: "Kyle"
thanks - good to know.

Wow, the Air Liquide price has gone up, mine was $99 for three years on a 20 pounder.


99 and tax for three years? That's a damn good deal ... I was told it was higher than that (considerably) for 1 yr!
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Chris Craig on January 10, 2012, 11:07:17 AM
I called Air Liquid yesterday.  $77/yr.  You did get a good deal Kyle.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Ian Grant on January 10, 2012, 12:53:53 PM
I got mine last summer for $99/3years.   I would ask them about it cause they told me a higher price until I mentioned about someone in our club had a 3 year lease and of course she said that they offer that as well.  They also had to do a credit check but it didn't take long 15mins.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Chris Craig on January 10, 2012, 01:03:27 PM
I think I'd sooner pay $85 and own a 10lb tank than rent a $20 tank for $99 over 3 years.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Richard on January 10, 2012, 01:04:02 PM
+1 on teh $99/3 - that's what I have. That's the lease on the tank though, it's not unlimited CO2. Think the fill is additional to that and might be the reason for the discrepancy if the $77/1 includes a fill.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Chris Craig on January 10, 2012, 01:10:03 PM
No.  She told me $77/year and fills were $49.  I'm not saying she knew what she was talking about, but that's what she told me.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Jake on January 10, 2012, 01:39:50 PM
I just got mine maybe 2 months ago and I got the $99 for 3 years. Did you tell her it was for beer? if so, she may have assumed you were looking for the beer gas that some of the restaurants get, and I believe that's about twice as expensive, which would be closer to what you were quoted ...
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Ian Grant on January 10, 2012, 01:40:47 PM
10lbs will be good enough..   20lbs for me is overkill but that's all they offered.  I guess its just less trips to get refilled.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Chris Craig on January 10, 2012, 01:46:50 PM
Quote from: "Jake"
I just got mine maybe 2 months ago and I got the $99 for 3 years. Did you tell her it was for beer? if so, she may have assumed you were looking for the beer gas that some of the restaurants get, and I believe that's about twice as expensive, which would be closer to what you were quoted ...


Yeah. I told here what I was doing, and she mention beer gas.  I told her I just wanted CO2.  I guess I just got somebody on the phone who didn't know what she was talking about.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Ian Grant on January 10, 2012, 01:51:33 PM
I think I had the same lady cause it took a bit of talking to get that price.  I'm pretty sure it's cheaper for home use rather then industrial.  I'd say some of them tanks get banged up pretty good on the work site.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: DandyMason on January 10, 2012, 02:54:13 PM
Yeah I get mine filled there. I bought a 20 lber on kijiji filled for 110 bucks. I got it filled a couple weeks ago for 75 bucks I think... Took 20 mins or so.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Jmac00 on January 13, 2012, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: "DandyMason"
I got it filled a couple weeks ago for 75 bucks I think... Took 20 mins or so.


WOW!!!  :o  pricey...there's a place in halifax that charges around $25 i think for a fill if i remember correctly(about $25 for a hydro as well there)....just shows you how much markup there is for the convenience/monopoly of very limited places in town that do fills on site. As there's only atlantic fire and safety, and the guy in lincoln(can't remember what he charges). All my cylinders i've bought already had CO2 in them so i've never actually had to pay for a fillup yet.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: HappyHax0r on January 13, 2012, 01:53:41 PM
So I checked out Canox over by my place for pricing on fills/cylinder leases...

He wanted $90.00 a year for the initial lease, and $70+ for for the fill.

Yeah... no thanks.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: JohnQ on January 13, 2012, 02:04:36 PM
Quote from: "Jmac00"

WOW!!!  :o  pricey..


Yeah,
Like I said earlier, one of the very few things I miss about living in the centre of the universe was the $20 fills, which quickly became $20 swap outs, of course I did have to drive half way to hell and back to get them, and yup there really is only one real CO2 place in all of the GTA.
When I first got here I damn near passed out when they said $55 with straight face.
I have in the past tried a little group buy conversation, but unfortunately it's one of the toughest things to get people united on, since most of the tanks are rented in some fashion, and the early discussions were pretty unproductive, because even if we all got on board, and then we all went through a couple of tanks a year, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans compared to the fire extinguisher biz, or any other gas user, so I don't think there's enough volume to make it worth getting into it just yet, or possibly ever.
Having said that...I think I'll start a Gas Log for anyone who wants to join in, to put their tank situation, update the fills, and lease expiry dates etc, so that if we see another opportunity to take a shot at a group buy, we'd have some hard data.

JQ
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Jmac00 on January 13, 2012, 02:19:24 PM
Yeah, none of my tanks are rented/leased...purchased em all used off kijiji....mind you some of them are older and out of hydro, but they were all full. When i start to get low, i'll think about getting them tested again and filled, but i think i'll take them to hali instead of paying the $50 for testing here plus a $75 fill.....FAWK THAT!!! can buy a brand new tank for that price.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: DandyMason on January 13, 2012, 02:21:05 PM
Yeah I had no idea what a good price for filling it was. It was my first time filling.. so i didnt think too much about the 75 bucks... Ill have to fill it next time im in Halifax... Save myself 50 bucks. Good to know!
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Jmac00 on January 13, 2012, 02:36:09 PM
Quote from: "DandyMason"
Yeah I had no idea what a good price for filling it was. It was my first time filling.. so i didnt think too much about the 75 bucks... Ill have to fill it next time im in Halifax... Save myself 50 bucks. Good to know!


I suggest calling for up to date pricing in case its changed.

http://www.brentons.com/ (http://www.brentons.com/)

That's where NG gets all their's done  ;)
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: pliny on January 13, 2012, 03:20:53 PM
Quote from: "JohnQ"
Quote from: "Jmac00"

WOW!!!  :o  pricey..


Yeah,
Like I said earlier, one of the very few things I miss about living in the centre of the universe was the $20 fills, which quickly became $20 swap outs, of course I did have to drive half way to hell and back to get them, and yup there really is only one real CO2 place in all of the GTA.
When I first got here I damn near passed out when they said $55 with straight face.
I have in the past tried a little group buy conversation, but unfortunately it's one of the toughest things to get people united on, since most of the tanks are rented in some fashion, and the early discussions were pretty unproductive, because even if we all got on board, and then we all went through a couple of tanks a year, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans compared to the fire extinguisher biz, or any other gas user, so I don't think there's enough volume to make it worth getting into it just yet, or possibly ever.
JQ


Yep, they're nice guys and all over in the Industrial Park there but it's a slap in the face to pay that price for CO2 around here.
I know brew mentioned this many times that he knows Kennedy in Oromocto... I own tanks and I would jump in on a group deal.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: JohnQ on January 13, 2012, 03:30:43 PM
Quote from: "pliny"

I know brew mentioned this many times that he knows Kennedy in Oromocto... I own tanks and I would jump in on a group deal.


Yeah, that's who I briefly talked with, but the feeling I got wasn't as enthusiastic as I'd hoped, though he was willing to talk about it. His base pricing is basically within $5 of everyone else. After running a small discussion, there wasn't enough volume to go to him with any realistic proposal, so it died there.

I just started a new thread in the group buy section, for people to log their tank and fill info.  If we track it for a while, then we'll likely have a decent amount of data collected so that we can approach all the suppliers and ask them to quote.

JQ
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: jeffsmith on April 02, 2012, 11:34:32 AM
Sorry to revive an old topic. I'm wondering if anyone knows a good spot in the Moncton area to get a 10lb. tank filled? Preferably somewhere that I can get it filled on the spot and don't have to leave it for a few days.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: chrismccull on April 02, 2012, 11:42:04 AM
Air Liquide
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: jeffsmith on April 02, 2012, 11:43:56 AM
Quote from: "chrismccull"
Air Liquide


Do they require a contract?
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Richard on April 02, 2012, 11:57:34 AM
Yup.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: jeffsmith on April 02, 2012, 12:04:06 PM
Thanks folks. Might give Praxair a try as I've heard they fill on site (I believe AL requires you to leave the tank) and don't require a contract. Rumour of course, so could be completely wrong.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: chrismccull on April 02, 2012, 12:17:29 PM
If you give Air Liquide a tank in Fredericton, they keep the tank and send it to Moncton.  Chances are, they could fill them on-site in Moncton if we were in town.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: fakr on April 02, 2012, 02:21:29 PM
Jeff, if you're in Moncton, go to Brunswick fyr & safety and ask for Serge.  Tell him Joe  G sent you.  He was my roomate from way back.  Good guy.
He'll be able to hook you up.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: jeffsmith on April 02, 2012, 02:32:46 PM
Thanks! They were on my list to call, but perhaps I'll just drop in tomorrow.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: fakr on April 02, 2012, 02:36:44 PM
yeah, just drop in with your cylinder (no regulator), and Serge will take care of it for you.  If it's old, it might need a hydro test before they fill it, but they do that on site as well.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: jeffsmith on April 02, 2012, 02:42:57 PM
Awesome. I'm good for hydro until 2013, so a fill is all I need. Thanks again.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: jeffsmith on April 03, 2012, 12:23:48 PM
Thanks for the recommendation fair. Got my tank filled while I waited. Was in and out of Brunswick Fyr in less than 10 minutes. Looks like they've got my business.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: pliny on May 24, 2012, 03:55:01 PM
Quote from: "pliny"
Quote from: "JohnQ"
Quote from: "Jmac00"

WOW!!!  :o  pricey..


Yeah,
Like I said earlier, one of the very few things I miss about living in the centre of the universe was the $20 fills, which quickly became $20 swap outs, of course I did have to drive half way to hell and back to get them, and yup there really is only one real CO2 place in all of the GTA.
When I first got here I damn near passed out when they said $55 with straight face.
I have in the past tried a little group buy conversation, but unfortunately it's one of the toughest things to get people united on, since most of the tanks are rented in some fashion, and the early discussions were pretty unproductive, because even if we all got on board, and then we all went through a couple of tanks a year, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans compared to the fire extinguisher biz, or any other gas user, so I don't think there's enough volume to make it worth getting into it just yet, or possibly ever.
JQ


Yep, they're nice guys and all over in the Industrial Park there but it's a slap in the face to pay that price for CO2 around here.
I know brew mentioned this many times that he knows Kennedy in Oromocto... I own tanks and I would jump in on a group deal.



This is an old message and this doesn't apply to everyone but I was asked to clarify;

George Kennedy does not live in Oromocto, he lives just before the Fredericton airport.
He picked up and dropped of my tank at my house before the weekend the other day. Needless to say it was much appreciated.
Nice guy and good prices too.
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: Jmac00 on May 26, 2012, 11:49:49 AM
price for the fill? and what size tank? just so others know :)
Title: Re: CO2 cylinders & fills
Post by: pliny on June 14, 2012, 09:58:30 PM
FYI,
Kennedy has a 5lb. refurbished tank for $65+tax.
Its basically a tank (cast iron) and a new valve. Its full of CO2 and ready to go.
Just in case someone was thinking of getting into it.