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Beer Recipes and Food => All Grain => 9 - Scottish and Irish Ale => Topic started by: Richard on October 11, 2011, 11:52:31 AM

Title: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Richard on October 11, 2011, 11:52:31 AM
5lbs Maris Otter
2lbs Vienna
1lb Munich
0.5lb Melanoidin Malt
0.5lb Caramunich III
2oz Roast Barley
2oz Chocolate Malt

0.6oz Hallertau Tradition 7% @ 60

S-04

Mash 3 Gallons @ 154, Sparge 4 Gallons @ 168.

Estimates: OG 1.038, FG: 1.010, ABV: 3.7%, IBUs: 14.8 (Tinseth)
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Brian_S on November 23, 2011, 09:33:09 PM
What did you think of this?  My 60 came out a wee bit watery.  

I'm thinking a bit more Carafoam next batch.

B
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Richard on November 23, 2011, 09:39:07 PM
It had less body than I wanted, but I'm going to counter this next time with a thicker mash and/or higher mash temp. The flavour was spot-on, though. I want to experiment with a thicker mash on an IPA first, since I'm most familiar/comfortable with tweaking other parameters on the style.

Palmer recommends 158F; I think that would be a good start... I find that Carafoam adds to the caramel flavour too much to use in improving body past a certain point.
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: brew on December 06, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
So not a lot of hops in this one Richard? No flavor / aroma hops? Tried this and it was excellent...

I would expect a Scottish 70 to be higher abv - is there something I should do to get it up a bit without really changing the flavor a whole lot?
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Richard on December 06, 2011, 02:17:44 PM
Very little at all; this is one of the most malt-forward styles out there.
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Richard on December 06, 2011, 02:20:09 PM
http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style09.php#1b (http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style09.php#1b)

3.2-3.9% - this one is to-style, even towards the higher end of strength. There are some EXTREMELY BAD examples of the Scottish 60/70/80 out there, for example anything McEwans is going to be absolutely terrible. I used to live close enough to the brewery in Edinburgh that I could smell the brew day, and lets just say it was about as appetising as the end result is.
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Dave Savoie on December 06, 2011, 03:31:38 PM
What about doing a caramalization of the first runnings concentrating  the malt goodness
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: brew on December 18, 2011, 12:38:41 PM
So I'm sparging this now - I screwed the pooch and put in 4oz each of RB and Chocolate instead of 2oz of each - crap... oh well, hope it turns out ok...
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Richard on December 18, 2011, 01:00:50 PM
Probably be fine, just roastier :)
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Richard on January 02, 2012, 11:54:43 AM
Re-running this with EKG instead of Hallertau Tr. to equivalent IBUs. After a little experimentation recently I came to the conclusion that my mash temps were 2-4 degrees below what I originally measure due to the temperature dropping really fast during the initial mash temp. Gonna try measuring the temp over time with this one...
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: brew on January 02, 2012, 12:01:34 PM
So I kegged mine last week - this is _awesome_!! I love this beer... I never would have discovered it had I not had one of the last glasses from your Keg a few meetings ago Richard - thanks  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Richard on January 02, 2012, 12:05:11 PM
That was the most interest I'd ever had in a tapped out keg :P

Thanks man, appreciate the good review :)
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Chris Craig on January 29, 2012, 09:39:52 PM
Whichever version of this I tried today...I like it.  Good job.
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: Richard on April 02, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
Ran MK-II of this today... switched the vienna for munich and the hops for 1.2oz of EKG.
Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: brew on June 15, 2012, 09:18:37 AM
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Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: HappyHax0r on June 16, 2012, 05:48:04 PM
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Title: Re: Dunedin Dumber Scottish 70/-
Post by: JohnQ on June 16, 2012, 06:43:49 PM
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