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Beer Recipes and Food => All Grain => 6 - Light Hybrid Beer => Topic started by: brew on July 07, 2011, 09:18:30 AM

Title: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: brew on July 07, 2011, 09:18:30 AM
Did this one last night:

http://www.craftbrewing.ca/brewblog/index.php?page=brewBlogDetail&id=6&filter=brew

Used a Ringwood slant from the library...
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Kyle on July 07, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
congrats on going all grain! Looks very good.
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Richard on July 07, 2011, 12:11:08 PM
Yup, definitely looks good. I'd be curious to see what the ringwood brings to the table in this one.
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: brew on July 07, 2011, 12:59:36 PM
Yeah should be interesting - got some airlock activity at around 12 or 13 hours so the starter must have worked!
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Dave Savoie on July 07, 2011, 02:38:32 PM
Just an opinion I would soak some Orange zest in some Vodka and add after fermentation has completed as the 1 OZ you added with 5 min left in the boil will lend no flavor due to fermentation eating it all up but thats just me :P
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: brew on July 07, 2011, 03:10:55 PM
Interesting - so the dried orange peel would be mostly sugar(s) then? Maybe soak another 1 oz in say a couple oz's of vodka?
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Dave Savoie on July 07, 2011, 04:26:33 PM
I would get a few more opinions then proceed :P
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: brew on July 07, 2011, 07:34:59 PM
Good think I checked on this earlier this afternoon, needs a blow off tube!
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Shawn on July 07, 2011, 09:02:59 PM
That's a fair amount of sweet orange peel (I'm assuming you mean the dried...?)... I don't think all the flavor will be out of your beer. The later you add it in the boil, the better, but 5 minutes is a very reasonable time, assuming your wort was cooled fairly quickly.

Fermentation doesn't scrub out flavor/aroma as much as you'd think. Late hop/spice additions can still add quite a bit of both, depending on the beer.
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: pliny on July 07, 2011, 10:08:32 PM
To add a bit to Shawn's; you will get some decent citrus with your hop bill (Cascade, Cascade, Cascade).
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Richard on July 08, 2011, 09:32:08 PM
Yeah I find that the flavour doesn't get blown off - aroma does to a large degree, though.
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: brew on August 03, 2011, 08:44:32 PM
So this finished super cloudy  :(  I did put it in the fridge for a couple of days but - nothin - still pea soup. It has CO2 in it now, but I've taken it out of the fridge and gassing off the carb...

Tastes like it looks... a bit "orangy" but bitter and thick - perhaps there is some pith in the orange peel from Scoop and Save?

Must be the orange peel - I'm going to try and clear it - going to put some pectin enzyme and then gelatin. Maybe the enzyme for a couple of days first - wonder if I should try putting it back into the fermentor or just leave it in the keg?
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Richard on August 03, 2011, 10:02:22 PM
Avoid oxidising it (as a transfer would potentially cause). Only reason to move to a carboy would be for visual, but you can probably manage that with a wine thief or whatever.
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Kyle on August 05, 2011, 01:59:07 PM
The wheat can also cause alot of cloudiness. Did you use whirlfloc? I find that at least 1/2 tab of it is the most effective way to prevent opaqueness in wheat beers that are done grain to glass relatively quickly.
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: brew on August 19, 2011, 02:54:56 PM
Indeed with this batch I did forget the whirlfloc... so I added the pectin enzyme (2 tsp) for about 4 days - nothin - then added gelatin and it cleared significantly - it now looks like a wheat beer (some haze, but more what you'd see in a Garrison wheat). I also forgot it after hooking it up to the CO2 - 30psi for 5 days... if I want a glass, I take a growler... The taste is much better, but there is something there I don't think belongs - I'll bring some tomorrow - hope to gain some insight...
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Dean on August 19, 2011, 03:03:08 PM
is it still bitter, Pete? Did you add just the orange or did you also add corriander?  I have an orange wheat too that tastes weird ...I think it's the corriander but then again maybe it just needs more time to condition

same here, I'll bring some tomorrow
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Kyle on August 19, 2011, 03:46:23 PM
coriander is one of those things that you can easily add too much of, and then there's no way of masking it except letting it age can sometimes help, but wheat beers are best fresh, so not an optimal situation.
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Dean on August 19, 2011, 03:57:16 PM
oh it's not bad, just noticeable like with the hoegaarden. The orange isn't near as strong as I thought it would be ...I was hoping for a Rickard's White taste. It may yet ...I tasted it 3 or 4 days ago and it was watery and horrible, today it's drinkable ...next weekend it should be good
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Kyle on August 19, 2011, 03:59:48 PM
since we are sharing beers with issues anyways, I'd contribute a 3.5 year old bottle-conditioned brew made by poly-amorous Pagans with unspecified non-traditional ingredients.... I'll go put it in the fridge  :lol:  

I've been saving it for some reason, not really sure why.

(there will be pale ale on tap too)
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Kyle on August 19, 2011, 04:08:01 PM
Dean: how long was it in primary and what yeast was it?
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: brew on August 19, 2011, 04:11:20 PM
Mine is not as bitter as it was - seems to have mellowed on that front, but there is still something there... I did in fact add a couple of dashes of corriander, but you can't taste it...
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Dean on August 19, 2011, 04:16:02 PM
15 days ...S-04
Title: Re: Summer Citrus Wheat
Post by: Richard on August 19, 2011, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: "Kyle"
poly-amorous Pagans


I knew it; you're a hippie!